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35 Comments
Philana
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 06:24 AM |
I believe #7 is misspelled -- There's an added "i" in the fourth position.
This is supposed to be a hyperCROSS, and yet the 44/29 pair doesn't cross anything!
Also, don't assume that the first person in each pair is always on the left.
mnemonica
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 06:58 AM |
Edit: thanks for the help!
(And I'm less than thrilled with having to click on an entry three times to fill it. I guess it helps determine name lengths, but it feels clunky.)
jewelia
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 06:32 AM |
[1] Thank you! I kept assuming it must be another character who does have an "I" there!
tempus42
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 06:33 AM |
Sorry, but I just can't count how many things are wrong or ill-conceived about this puzzle....
hatemachine
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 08:04 AM |
Not very difficult...just time consuming when you only know 4 of the couples.
Philana
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 06:58 AM |
Also, 25 & 16 are not like all the others (though that's easy to realize, given the answer lengths).
I believe that #8 is also wrong -- the answer is not the character pictured, but is another character from the same movie.
Kilgore
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 09:02 AM |
I was so busy typing movie titles into Wikipedia that I ACTUALLY started typing 24/39...then started laughing...
Murdoctor
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 07:39 AM |
Ok... the good news is that I corrected the errors. The bad news is that the updates will now throw off all of the comments in this thread that refer to clue numbers, since the clue numbers are all different now.
Sorry.
Murdoctor
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 07:45 AM |
[6] I believe you're talking what is now clue #11... and that is the correct name for the character pictured. At least, that's the name that everyone calls that person in the movie, even though the given name of that character is two letters longer.
Philana
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:20 AM |
[9] Actually, it's now clue #12. And I still stand by my original statement. The actor pictured did not play the character named in the answer.
I sent you a TG with an explanation and some links.
Lili
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 09:02 AM |
[10] I agree with you and hand a hard time with that one(so I will blame it on the error) This puzzle does not have crossings for all the clues. In fact most of the clues(?) don't cross if you count the &s. This would have been better if the pairs were left as one clue per pair instead of three, although as noted above it does help with the word length. I do think however to be a true hyper the clues should cross.
scoutmom
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 09:05 AM |
I found it frustrating that some of the names are identical in lengthy. Other than trial and error, was there a way to determine who went first?
RPardoe
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:17 AM |
[10][12] I completely agree...
44 Clues!
10 of which do NOT cross with anything.
I usually am very supportive of the mods and their efforts, but this one was a bad, bad decision to pass along. As is, it should have been rejected! The puzzle should have been cut in half to start....and then worked and reworked to get proper crossings. And then an indication in the picture of which half of the pair to use!
I am sorry....good idea, poorly executed, and poorly moderated to let it get published in such a state. (The fact that there were additional errors that Murdoctor had to fix just reinforces the points above.)
QurqirishDragon
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 09:35 AM |
Whew! two image-recognition hypers at once. Fortunately, this is one of the few times that the livejournal blog about the puzzles gave plenty of hints (for this one, there was a list of the movies used- I only recognized about half of them, and I didn't know the character names for some of those), but no answers so the puzzle wasn't spoiled.
[12] If you solved the ones that can only go in one order first, you do get enough crossing info to get the others.
edit: [11] I think that if they were left as one clue, they could have been augmented with the lengths. For example, the first down clue could have noted on the bottom 7 & 9
threehojos
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 09:44 AM |
Ouch!
Sorry all...this was a very early hyper (submitted many moons ago) in attempt to think outside the proverbial box that apparently should have gone in the "circular file"!
Oh well, submit & learn I guess!
Murdoctor
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:02 AM |
[13] Personally, I liked the way it was "different" with the pairs of clues, with some crossing and some not; that made it more of a "puzzle" than just the image identification.
It would have taken a lot of work to "fix" this puzzle the way you say, and even then I don't think it would have been feature-able. Given that, it was worth approving as unfeatured... aside from the errors that slipped through.
RPardoe
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:15 AM |
[15] To be clear - I think this was a clever, outside the box idea.
But too much of a good thing isn't always better. It is a bit like having another helping of that rich chocolate dessert. The first helping was great, the second isn't quite sitting right...
A good editor (ie moderator) should have recognized the puzzle's excesses and worked with you to trim this down into a much more presentable and enjoyable puzzle.
[16] And I agree that it was a good idea. Yes, it would have been a lot of work to clean up, but cutting the puzzle in half would have reduced that workload. But even then....this would have been an unfeatured puzzle, but a much better unfeatured hypercross.
I am probably reading too much into your statement (my emphasis):
It would have taken a lot of work to "fix" this puzzle the way you say, and even then I don't think it would have been feature-able. Given that, it was worth approving as unfeatured...
But I think a puzzle that needs work should be reviewed and discussed with the puzzle's creator to improve it even if the eventual publication will be as an unfeatured puzzle. I had thought that was one of the goals of the moderators....not only to catch the obvious errors (which do seem to be slipping back into the puzzles with a bit more frequency lately), but also to help work and tweak the puzzles when needed to make the execution of the idea as good as it can be. Again, not every puzzle can be featured, but that doesn't mean every puzzle can't be the well-done for what it is.
scoutmom
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:43 AM |
[17] Well put. I greatly appreciate all the work the moderators do, but this puzzle as is/was needed some additional work before being released.
must67
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:07 AM |
[15] I recently had my early puzzle stepped on(rejected)so I would like to mitigate some of the comments. I agree with some of the above comments it was a good idea and definetly should not have been sent to the circular file but worked on to make it better. I like the idea of trying things outside the box.
soccer_ref
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:02 PM |
I've filled in all the others, but I have no clue what film 12/15 is from and it's so blurry I can't even tell who the actors are. :(
Edit: Got it. Thank you Jewelia!!!
[21] Well, I was. And that would have helped if Jewelia hadn't already rescued me. :D
RPardoe
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:43 AM |
[20] So you are desperately seeking the answer?
Philana
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:51 AM |
[17] Well said!
Murdoctor
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 02:02 PM |
[17] You've probably noticed that hypercrosses are being unfeatured a bit more frequently now than in the past. That's because we are making an effort to run through the backlog of hypers that have been sitting around collecting dust. Reviewing hypers takes a lot more time and effort than the other types of puzzles (and I know you are aware of the amount of work puzzle moderating can take, as you yourself got "burnt out" from it)... and hypers are much more prone to errors "slipping through", due to the nature of those puzzles.
Maybe you're right in that I should have worked with the author to trim the puzzle back and clean it up a little more, but I was trying to avoid having threehojos go through all of that effort just to wind up with the puzzle being unfeatured anyway. So, instead, I fixed up a few things that I noticed were wrong (though obviously I missed a couple of errors) and unfeatured it.
I will certainly keep this situation in mind in the future, though... and try to fine-tune my approach towards moderating puzzles accordingly. Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
mlevenson
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 02:39 PM |
Good puzzle, a little unorthodox, but great to research during timeouts of the football games. Now, how about some salt for
14/38???
Murdoctor
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 02:50 PM |
[10] I went ahead and removed that set of answers from the puzzle (and moved the others that were crossing it as necessary), since the wrong characters from the movie were paired up, and putting in the right ones would have messed up the crossing letters. That movie wasn't really as iconic as most of the others in the puzzle, anyway.
Unfortunately, that messed up the clue numbers again for anyone looking for hints here... My apologies yet again.
Murdoctor
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 02:56 PM |
[24] If you're having trouble with the one I think about... then maybe you should ask someone to e-mail you with a hint.
Tahnan
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 03:10 PM |
So now we have (if we didn't before) the 35/42 pairing crossing only at letters that are identical in both names. Meaning that, every time I tried to fix an error somewhere else in the grid, I then had to submit it twice (once for 35, once for 42). I think "disaster" may be an appropriate description here.
mlevenson
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 03:46 PM |
Anyone want to TG me on 14/38?
EDIT: nevermind
i've got them all but it's still not taking. Also, it seems to have 2 less clues. What's going on???
Murdoctor
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 08:08 PM |
[27] Crud.
EDIT: Fixed (again -- hopefully for the last time)
magraf7
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 06:16 PM |
Has anyone finished this puzzle? I have all the answers and it says i am wrong. I give up.
slobeavis
Posted on Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:19 PM |
Am I mistaken or is the x-file one the only one that doesn't used first names? Maybe I have the wrong duo. Or maybe my molly one is wrong. Can't seem to find the error of my ways.
Murdoctor
Posted on Mon Sep 08, 2008 04:27 AM |
[31] You're right... the puzzle uses what the characters are known as, and that one pair goes by their last names.
monocle
Posted on Mon Sep 08, 2008 09:59 AM |
For some strange reason the browser I was using (Chrome) is not inserting the "&". Back to FF for this. But still not a huge fan of the puzzle yet.
Tahnan
Posted on Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:25 PM |
Well, technically, 24 and 41 are nicknames, not first names. But yes, the X-Files pair is kind of inconsistent in that regard; they're also the only ones (I think) that are partnered in a non-romantic sense. On the other hand, they're one of the few I'd actually refer to as a pair.
burg86
Posted on Mon Sep 08, 2008 03:10 PM |
Maybe you fixed all the issues by now but I loved doing the puzzle and had no problems. Thanks for the memories.
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