EDIT: The mods removed my transcript for being too salty. I didn't think the challenge here was to understand the mumbled script being read, I had assumed it was to actually solve the puzzle from the clues (especially for those that don't want to play sound and disturb other people).
It seemed to me that figuring out which words were critical in solving the puzzle was an important and non-obvious step. Your transcript included only the critical words. If you had entered the entire conversation word for word, I would have left it.
[18] I think that is too salty for here. I mean, if you were to put a full transcript so people could figure out the important details on their own maybe but just putting that is a little like just putting the answer. Just my two cents.
I agree with 18, I can watch the video and I have great sound and I can't make out all they are saying due to slurring their words through the whole affair by not facing the microphone.
Sorry about the sound quality, but please don't blame the camera-shy actors. I put a wireless mike on the girl's shoulder, and that improved the sound, but my equipment and I are still amateurs . . .
The list generated by Blahmcblah is fair, I think, because the wife and I got the exact same information from the video...and are still stumped.
And the answer is not "Montessori"
It's reeeally easy once you have the things they say written down. Even chickenscratch for what they say should be good enough.
Edit: People should be able to figure out the important pieces on their own. That's the reason why this is a hard OWW. If someone needs heavy salt that's what bgg forum is for.
Agree with blah. I have it cached and have been staring at it for about half an hour, and I have no idea what to do with it. One person's pound of salt is another person's FMHG.
Why should we have to go to another site to get help on solving puzzles on THIS site, then? What's the point of this comment system if not to provide help with puzzles?
What we really need to do is to put down a transcript of the entire thing. Then the important parts are still there, but they don't stand out. The only problem is finding someone to do it. Since I thought of the idea, I call "not it".
[46] Once I got some headphones so I could hear it I wanted to do it but I was having a hard time understanding/hearing parts of it. A little bit muffled in some areas, slurred in others, too fast at times too it seemed. Either way, what I came up with basically ended up being only the important bits. I decided that making a transcript that looked like this:
mumble mumble
answer practically spelled out here
more mumbling
I hate when there is salt that is so salty that it gets dumped twice and starts a minor fight... yet manages to not help me one bit. I listened to that thing like 6 times now. I've stared at my copied version of the super-salt. I've gone away and finished a puzzle I started making earlier. and I'm still not seeing or hearing any thing more than the actual words. Sometimes I feel like a bird... but tonight I feel like a statue.
[56] Agreed. I'm not going to paste it again because it really seems to upset some people, but if anybody wants to know what all the fuss in [3] and [18] was about, feel free to Tangagram me, and I'll give you exactly what was pasted there. People have seriously got to chill...
[44] real nice, there. i love tanga, and i enjoy the puzzles. i'm also hard of hearing. i got my help from some minor salt off of BGG, because, quite frankly, i couldn't make out everything in the video. and no disrespect to the jewelia, because this was a fun puzzle, but how, exactly, would a transcript be "spoiling" it? i guess i can see, maybe, if the transcript was laid out in a very particular way, with certain words capitalized, then yes, it might be too much salt. but a straight transcription of this puzzle wouldn't have done anything more than if anyone else wrote it down.
i'm not sure what's up with the negativeness on your end. you don't know that it's "only a few people," and you don't seem very keen on embracing those with difficulty into the tanga world.
i'm also not sure where "Tanga puzzles are supposed to be puzzles with a multimedia twist." comes from. as far as i've seen/read, only hypercross puzzles fall into that category, as defined by tanga.
i'm not trying to start a war, cause a fight, or make hard feelings. i'm just trying to understand why there seems to be an uproar over a transcript being provided.
I think this was a pretty unique puzzle (and fits this puzzle well), but fairly easy if it wasn't for the hard to understand guy (weird accent). Would have liked something that had more to do with the video than just the audio, so a transcript wouldn't give it away, but other than that, good job!
lol, got it, finally! good puzzle, interesting presentation...[57] gave me just what I needed, thanks. Just as an aside, I took that supersalt and pasted it into notepad and stared at til I went to bed last nite without a clue, when I GOT my clue I am really glad to have had it available as I could not hear most of that audio. I don't think it spoiled anything, I think it made the answer obtainable for some of us who would probably have ended up just leaving (yup, negative, sorry) But you know, that's just MY opinion, which makes me right to me, but maybe not to you LOL
[65] I'm sorry, I suppose my first post came off pretty badly. What I meant in what I said was to emphasize that heavy salting and therefore spoiling of the puzzle shouldn't be given away for all to see because there are some people who need it. I do think that a transcript of the entire clip would have been fine for everyone, but some people took it upon themselves to post just the key words making it unnecessary for people to even look at the video. I also think that the information given could have been asked for in tangagrams either from the author of the puzzle or others who had solved it. I would have gladly helped out anyone who asked me for help as I was on tanga for 3 hours last night after puzzle time. I do NOT feel that people who need help solving the puzzle because of disabilities should just have to sit and take it, which some people seem to have inferred is what I think. For a puzzle like this however, I feel salting should either be given on the side or in the form of a full transcript for all to see (For those that missed them, the original deleted posts [3] and [18] were NOT full transcripts but simply the key words needed to solve the puzzle.)
I kinda hate on the youtube puzzles a little because I generally do tanga puzzles at work if I can't be at a computer at launch the night before. paranoid corporate america blocks things like youtube. Maybe I'll play later at home. =^/
sorry i missed all of this last night. All I have to say is wow. You would think that its not about the puzzles, its about the points. Thats just too bad.
Wow jewelia, your puzzles sure do stir things up around here! And [55], I went that way too. I like that Tanga puzzles make me look at things many different ways.
91 Comments
jewelia
Posted on Sun Jan 20, 2008 03:39 PM |
Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc-Zru4lVRY
seagull
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:07 PM |
You are a freaking genius!!, you solved this puzzle.
You solved this puzzle in 9 seconds and were the 2nd Tanga member to solve it. You earned 109 points for solving this.
Wow - two #2's tonight.
ahecht
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 09:59 AM |
removed due to nacl saturation
EDIT: The mods removed my transcript for being too salty. I didn't think the challenge here was to understand the mumbled script being read, I had assumed it was to actually solve the puzzle from the clues (especially for those that don't want to play sound and disturb other people).
It seemed to me that figuring out which words were critical in solving the puzzle was an important and non-obvious step. Your transcript included only the critical words. If you had entered the entire conversation word for word, I would have left it.
Does this sound fair? Hope so, aaron
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:11 PM |
[3] Too salty!
Arnott
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:12 PM |
Thanks [3]! Your typing made it easier for me then looking at my chicken scratch.
blahmcblah
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:12 PM |
[4] Hasn't done a thing for me...
Hope2002
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:37 PM |
.
historysteph
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:13 PM |
You solved this puzzle in 5 minutes and 5 seconds and were the 6th Tanga member to solve it. You earned 105 points for solving this.
Definitely too salty. I had the second part, but not the first yet. Thanks.
blahmcblah
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:13 PM |
[7] That's what [3] is good for.
PhantaCComics
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:14 PM |
Well, I've got no sound for right now, so I guess I'm unable to do this one (cannot hear the video, I'm assuming there is sound)
ShinigamiSPQR
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:02 PM |
nvm
PhantaCComics
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:15 PM |
knew the answer before it was posted?
can someone provide a transcript of the video perhaps?
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:15 PM |
[3] Should be on bgg, not here.
blahmcblah
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:15 PM |
[11] My guess is he's the guy in the video.
matador
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:15 PM |
3 was definitely too salty.
heatherlouwho
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:17 PM |
Hmmm... Not seeing it.
seagull
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:17 PM |
Oops - cut and paste error... This one should have been:
You solved this puzzle in 4 minutes and 41 seconds and were the 2nd Tanga member to solve it. You earned 109 points for solving this.
boop
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:19 PM |
Oh, yeah- top twenty for the second time tonight.
But I agree; too salty.
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:22 PM |
[18] That's what bgg is for, post it there. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/131250/page...
PhantaCComics
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:23 PM |
Yay! Found a pair of headphones. Easy once you have sound.
jtotheh
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:23 PM |
Ah. I was looking for an answer half as long.
PhantaCComics
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:24 PM |
[18] I think that is too salty for here. I mean, if you were to put a full transcript so people could figure out the important details on their own maybe but just putting that is a little like just putting the answer. Just my two cents.
chubbchsr
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:26 PM |
I agree with 18, I can watch the video and I have great sound and I can't make out all they are saying due to slurring their words through the whole affair by not facing the microphone.
heatherlouwho
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:30 PM |
OMG! Jewelia! That is MOST awesome!!!
DrewO
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:30 PM |
[11] Busted!
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:31 PM |
Sounded fine for me. You can even hear her breathing a little. I doubt the microphone is behind her.
jewelia
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:34 PM |
Sorry about the sound quality, but please don't blame the camera-shy actors. I put a wireless mike on the girl's shoulder, and that improved the sound, but my equipment and I are still amateurs . . .
Also, Seagull is NOT the guy in the video.
namyzarc
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:32 PM |
"I mean, inspiring teacher helps poor kids...who cares?"
"I guess I don't.."
That's my favorite part... LOL...
capkincaid
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:32 PM |
Don't know if it's needed but I can't understand the name of the movie that they are going to watch.
steph_frolin
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:36 PM |
The list generated by Blahmcblah is fair, I think, because the wife and I got the exact same information from the video...and are still stumped.
And the answer is not "Montessori"
blahmcblah
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:36 PM |
[31] To be fair, ahecht posted it first, I just reposted it. I also looked it over and over and rewatched the video before it finally clicked.
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:39 PM |
It's reeeally easy once you have the things they say written down. Even chickenscratch for what they say should be good enough.
Edit: People should be able to figure out the important pieces on their own. That's the reason why this is a hard OWW. If someone needs heavy salt that's what bgg forum is for.
hatemachine
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:41 PM |
Just in the nick of time...
You solved this puzzle in 25 minutes and 53 seconds and were the 90th Tanga member to solve it. You earned 17 points for solving this.
heatherlouwho
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:42 PM |
[30] It's "one of the later ones," but it doesn't matter to the puzzle at all.
kayvon
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:44 PM |
Let me know if I'm too salty, but should I be counting the numbers of letters in these words?
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:47 PM |
[36] No counting necessary. If you use the right method you should even be able to see the answer by only having the first few letters.
Hope2002
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:38 PM |
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monocle
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:50 PM |
huh?
Tintin
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:50 PM |
Agree with blah. I have it cached and have been staring at it for about half an hour, and I have no idea what to do with it. One person's pound of salt is another person's FMHG.
capkincaid
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:53 PM |
Talkabout starring you in the face.
penguinleahjo
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 07:53 PM |
I got the answer, but I don't know how, I just kinda guessed, can anyone help me understand why that was the answer? Sorry, thanks.
Dullorb
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:02 PM |
meh, laziness wins, too much effort in watching movie... onto Ebay!
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 07:36 AM |
Edit: Removed, lest I accidentally offend others.
daved
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:08 PM |
Why should we have to go to another site to get help on solving puzzles on THIS site, then? What's the point of this comment system if not to provide help with puzzles?
jtotheh
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:09 PM |
What we really need to do is to put down a transcript of the entire thing. Then the important parts are still there, but they don't stand out. The only problem is finding someone to do it. Since I thought of the idea, I call "not it".
PhantaCComics
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:13 PM |
[46] Once I got some headphones so I could hear it I wanted to do it but I was having a hard time understanding/hearing parts of it. A little bit muffled in some areas, slurred in others, too fast at times too it seemed. Either way, what I came up with basically ended up being only the important bits. I decided that making a transcript that looked like this:
mumble mumble
answer practically spelled out here
more mumbling
would be somewhat useless. :)
daved
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:13 PM |
Someone did that, apparently, and it somehow gives too much away.
monocle
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:17 PM |
strange... I understood every word of the clip... but that doesn't seem to help me one bit.
Hope2002
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:38 PM |
.
Hope2002
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:38 PM |
.
monocle
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:00 PM |
[51] yes... but what seems less obvious to me is why her opinion is more important than mine. :)
dang... [51] was more than a dot... I'm not insane!
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 08:45 PM |
[50] [51] Edit: Tangagrammed
perihelion
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:06 PM |
Oh, the shame that it took me this long. I shall commit ritual suicide with a bar of chocolate.
Hey, to each their own.
dajagr
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:06 PM |
And at first, I was trying to figure out what "DDSVIRO" meant. :)
monocle
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:08 PM |
I hate when there is salt that is so salty that it gets dumped twice and starts a minor fight... yet manages to not help me one bit. I listened to that thing like 6 times now. I've stared at my copied version of the super-salt. I've gone away and finished a puzzle I started making earlier. and I'm still not seeing or hearing any thing more than the actual words. Sometimes I feel like a bird... but tonight I feel like a statue.
leadfoot
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:45 PM |
[56] INITIALly I was feeling the same way as you, but then I got over it.
If you want to see the dumped salt, check out BGG... (and ignore the "too")
blahmcblah
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:22 PM |
[56] Agreed. I'm not going to paste it again because it really seems to upset some people, but if anybody wants to know what all the fuss in [3] and [18] was about, feel free to Tangagram me, and I'll give you exactly what was pasted there. People have seriously got to chill...
monocle
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:24 PM |
bonk! has any one seen my dunce cap? jeez now I really feel like a statue. thanks to several people for the sledge-hammer salt.
dingo262
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:31 PM |
[59] Still needing a bonk on this one.
WirelessFox
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:39 PM |
[60] same here... :(
cyncat
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:39 PM |
[60] It's easier if you stare at your chicken scratch, rather than at what was printed in [3] and [18].
leadfoot
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:43 PM |
NOT SALT - JUST A COMMENT
monocle
Your avatar reminds me of a puzzle published a while ago...
http://tanga.com/puzzles/355-4-28-2007
Probably published around the time you started
monocle
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 09:55 PM |
[63] lol... 6 days after I started... or at least 6 days after my first purchase which is probably when I started.
madhatternalice
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:39 PM |
[44] real nice, there. i love tanga, and i enjoy the puzzles. i'm also hard of hearing. i got my help from some minor salt off of BGG, because, quite frankly, i couldn't make out everything in the video. and no disrespect to the jewelia, because this was a fun puzzle, but how, exactly, would a transcript be "spoiling" it? i guess i can see, maybe, if the transcript was laid out in a very particular way, with certain words capitalized, then yes, it might be too much salt. but a straight transcription of this puzzle wouldn't have done anything more than if anyone else wrote it down.
i'm not sure what's up with the negativeness on your end. you don't know that it's "only a few people," and you don't seem very keen on embracing those with difficulty into the tanga world.
i'm also not sure where "Tanga puzzles are supposed to be puzzles with a multimedia twist." comes from. as far as i've seen/read, only hypercross puzzles fall into that category, as defined by tanga.
i'm not trying to start a war, cause a fight, or make hard feelings. i'm just trying to understand why there seems to be an uproar over a transcript being provided.
Stexe
Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:59 PM |
I think this was a pretty unique puzzle (and fits this puzzle well), but fairly easy if it wasn't for the hard to understand guy (weird accent). Would have liked something that had more to do with the video than just the audio, so a transcript wouldn't give it away, but other than that, good job!
clemon79
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:26 AM |
That's just a freakin' brilliant presentation for a puzzle. It could just be presented in print, but blah! Really really fun. :)
yelowflower
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 01:47 AM |
lol, got it, finally! good puzzle, interesting presentation...[57] gave me just what I needed, thanks. Just as an aside, I took that supersalt and pasted it into notepad and stared at til I went to bed last nite without a clue, when I GOT my clue I am really glad to have had it available as I could not hear most of that audio. I don't think it spoiled anything, I think it made the answer obtainable for some of us who would probably have ended up just leaving (yup, negative, sorry) But you know, that's just MY opinion, which makes me right to me, but maybe not to you LOL
spamwise
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 05:34 AM |
[55] me too. :)
spamwise
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 05:53 AM |
http://www.tanga.com/forum/blogs/1369-Open_lett...
BigRob
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 06:48 AM |
ummm, yeah, my school blocked access to youtuube, so... yeah... on to the next puzzle
Mysticalmelody
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 08:01 AM |
[65] I'm sorry, I suppose my first post came off pretty badly. What I meant in what I said was to emphasize that heavy salting and therefore spoiling of the puzzle shouldn't be given away for all to see because there are some people who need it. I do think that a transcript of the entire clip would have been fine for everyone, but some people took it upon themselves to post just the key words making it unnecessary for people to even look at the video. I also think that the information given could have been asked for in tangagrams either from the author of the puzzle or others who had solved it. I would have gladly helped out anyone who asked me for help as I was on tanga for 3 hours last night after puzzle time. I do NOT feel that people who need help solving the puzzle because of disabilities should just have to sit and take it, which some people seem to have inferred is what I think. For a puzzle like this however, I feel salting should either be given on the side or in the form of a full transcript for all to see (For those that missed them, the original deleted posts [3] and [18] were NOT full transcripts but simply the key words needed to solve the puzzle.)
steve
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 07:42 AM |
I kinda hate on the youtube puzzles a little because I generally do tanga puzzles at work if I can't be at a computer at launch the night before. paranoid corporate america blocks things like youtube. Maybe I'll play later at home. =^/
patrel
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 08:04 AM |
sorry i missed all of this last night. All I have to say is wow. You would think that its not about the puzzles, its about the points. Thats just too bad.
John
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 08:52 AM |
Here's the transcript in its entirety:
Largely obscured actor 1: [mumble]
Largely obscured actor 2: [mumble]
It was a decent puzzle. Just hard to deal with the production values.
pitamuffin
Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2008 08:54 AM |
Wow jewelia, your puzzles sure do stir things up around here! And [55], I went that way too. I like that Tanga puzzles make me look at things many different ways.