One Word Wonder

Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc-Zru4lVRY

You are a freaking genius!!, you solved this puzzle.

You solved this puzzle in 9 seconds and were the 2nd Tanga member to solve it. You earned 109 points for solving this.

Wow - two #2's tonight.

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EDIT: The mods removed my transcript for being too salty. I didn't think the challenge here was to understand the mumbled script being read, I had assumed it was to actually solve the puzzle from the clues (especially for those that don't want to play sound and disturb other people).

It seemed to me that figuring out which words were critical in solving the puzzle was an important and non-obvious step. Your transcript included only the critical words. If you had entered the entire conversation word for word, I would have left it.

Does this sound fair? Hope so, aaron

[3] Too salty!

[4] Hasn't done a thing for me...

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You solved this puzzle in 5 minutes and 5 seconds and were the 6th Tanga member to solve it. You earned 105 points for solving this.

Definitely too salty. I had the second part, but not the first yet. Thanks.

[7] That's what [3] is good for.

Well, I've got no sound for right now, so I guess I'm unable to do this one (cannot hear the video, I'm assuming there is sound)

nvm

knew the answer before it was posted?

can someone provide a transcript of the video perhaps?

[3] Should be on bgg, not here.

[11] My guess is he's the guy in the video.

3 was definitely too salty.

Hmmm... Not seeing it.

Oops - cut and paste error... This one should have been:

You solved this puzzle in 4 minutes and 41 seconds and were the 2nd Tanga member to solve it. You earned 109 points for solving this.

Oh, yeah- top twenty for the second time tonight.

But I agree; too salty.

[18] That's what bgg is for, post it there. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/131250/page/444

Yay! Found a pair of headphones. Easy once you have sound.

Ah. I was looking for an answer half as long.

[18] I think that is too salty for here. I mean, if you were to put a full transcript so people could figure out the important details on their own maybe but just putting that is a little like just putting the answer. Just my two cents.

I agree with 18, I can watch the video and I have great sound and I can't make out all they are saying due to slurring their words through the whole affair by not facing the microphone.

OMG! Jewelia! That is MOST awesome!!!

[11] Busted!

Sounded fine for me. You can even hear her breathing a little. I doubt the microphone is behind her.

"I mean, inspiring teacher helps poor kids...who cares?"

"I guess I don't.."

That's my favorite part... LOL...

Sorry about the sound quality, but please don't blame the camera-shy actors. I put a wireless mike on the girl's shoulder, and that improved the sound, but my equipment and I are still amateurs . . .

Also, Seagull is NOT the guy in the video.

Don't know if it's needed but I can't understand the name of the movie that they are going to watch.

The list generated by Blahmcblah is fair, I think, because the wife and I got the exact same information from the video...and are still stumped.
And the answer is not "Montessori"

[31] To be fair, ahecht posted it first, I just reposted it. I also looked it over and over and rewatched the video before it finally clicked.

It's reeeally easy once you have the things they say written down. Even chickenscratch for what they say should be good enough.
Edit: People should be able to figure out the important pieces on their own. That's the reason why this is a hard OWW. If someone needs heavy salt that's what bgg forum is for.

Just in the nick of time...

You solved this puzzle in 25 minutes and 53 seconds and were the 90th Tanga member to solve it. You earned 17 points for solving this.

[30] It's "one of the later ones," but it doesn't matter to the puzzle at all.

Let me know if I'm too salty, but should I be counting the numbers of letters in these words?

[36] No counting necessary. If you use the right method you should even be able to see the answer by only having the first few letters.

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huh?

Agree with blah. I have it cached and have been staring at it for about half an hour, and I have no idea what to do with it. One person's pound of salt is another person's FMHG.

Talkabout starring you in the face.

I got the answer, but I don't know how, I just kinda guessed, can anyone help me understand why that was the answer? Sorry, thanks.

meh, laziness wins, too much effort in watching movie... onto Ebay!

Edit: Removed, lest I accidentally offend others.

Why should we have to go to another site to get help on solving puzzles on THIS site, then? What's the point of this comment system if not to provide help with puzzles?

What we really need to do is to put down a transcript of the entire thing. Then the important parts are still there, but they don't stand out. The only problem is finding someone to do it. Since I thought of the idea, I call "not it".

[46] Once I got some headphones so I could hear it I wanted to do it but I was having a hard time understanding/hearing parts of it. A little bit muffled in some areas, slurred in others, too fast at times too it seemed. Either way, what I came up with basically ended up being only the important bits. I decided that making a transcript that looked like this:

mumble mumble
answer practically spelled out here
more mumbling

would be somewhat useless. :)

Someone did that, apparently, and it somehow gives too much away.

strange... I understood every word of the clip... but that doesn't seem to help me one bit.

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[51] yes... but what seems less obvious to me is why her opinion is more important than mine. :)

dang... [51] was more than a dot... I'm not insane!

[50] [51] Edit: Tangagrammed

Oh, the shame that it took me this long. I shall commit ritual suicide with a bar of chocolate.

Hey, to each their own.

And at first, I was trying to figure out what "DDSVIRO" meant. :)

I hate when there is salt that is so salty that it gets dumped twice and starts a minor fight... yet manages to not help me one bit. I listened to that thing like 6 times now. I've stared at my copied version of the super-salt. I've gone away and finished a puzzle I started making earlier. and I'm still not seeing or hearing any thing more than the actual words. Sometimes I feel like a bird... but tonight I feel like a statue.

[56] INITIALly I was feeling the same way as you, but then I got over it.

If you want to see the dumped salt, check out BGG... (and ignore the "too")

[56] Agreed. I'm not going to paste it again because it really seems to upset some people, but if anybody wants to know what all the fuss in [3] and [18] was about, feel free to Tangagram me, and I'll give you exactly what was pasted there. People have seriously got to chill...

bonk! has any one seen my dunce cap? jeez now I really feel like a statue. thanks to several people for the sledge-hammer salt.

[59] Still needing a bonk on this one.

[60] same here... :(

[60] It's easier if you stare at your chicken scratch, rather than at what was printed in [3] and [18].

NOT SALT - JUST A COMMENT

monocle
Your avatar reminds me of a puzzle published a while ago...

http://tanga.com/puzzles/355-4-28-2007

Probably published around the time you started

[63] lol... 6 days after I started... or at least 6 days after my first purchase which is probably when I started.

[44] real nice, there. i love tanga, and i enjoy the puzzles. i'm also hard of hearing. i got my help from some minor salt off of BGG, because, quite frankly, i couldn't make out everything in the video. and no disrespect to the jewelia, because this was a fun puzzle, but how, exactly, would a transcript be "spoiling" it? i guess i can see, maybe, if the transcript was laid out in a very particular way, with certain words capitalized, then yes, it might be too much salt. but a straight transcription of this puzzle wouldn't have done anything more than if anyone else wrote it down.

i'm not sure what's up with the negativeness on your end. you don't know that it's "only a few people," and you don't seem very keen on embracing those with difficulty into the tanga world.

i'm also not sure where "Tanga puzzles are supposed to be puzzles with a multimedia twist." comes from. as far as i've seen/read, only hypercross puzzles fall into that category, as defined by tanga.

i'm not trying to start a war, cause a fight, or make hard feelings. i'm just trying to understand why there seems to be an uproar over a transcript being provided.

I think this was a pretty unique puzzle (and fits this puzzle well), but fairly easy if it wasn't for the hard to understand guy (weird accent). Would have liked something that had more to do with the video than just the audio, so a transcript wouldn't give it away, but other than that, good job!

That's just a freakin' brilliant presentation for a puzzle. It could just be presented in print, but blah! Really really fun. :)

lol, got it, finally! good puzzle, interesting presentation...[57] gave me just what I needed, thanks. Just as an aside, I took that supersalt and pasted it into notepad and stared at til I went to bed last nite without a clue, when I GOT my clue I am really glad to have had it available as I could not hear most of that audio. I don't think it spoiled anything, I think it made the answer obtainable for some of us who would probably have ended up just leaving (yup, negative, sorry) But you know, that's just MY opinion, which makes me right to me, but maybe not to you LOL

[55] me too. :)

http://www.tanga.com/forum/blogs/1369-Open_letter_to_disgruntled_puzzlers

ummm, yeah, my school blocked access to youtuube, so... yeah... on to the next puzzle

[65] I'm sorry, I suppose my first post came off pretty badly. What I meant in what I said was to emphasize that heavy salting and therefore spoiling of the puzzle shouldn't be given away for all to see because there are some people who need it. I do think that a transcript of the entire clip would have been fine for everyone, but some people took it upon themselves to post just the key words making it unnecessary for people to even look at the video. I also think that the information given could have been asked for in tangagrams either from the author of the puzzle or others who had solved it. I would have gladly helped out anyone who asked me for help as I was on tanga for 3 hours last night after puzzle time. I do NOT feel that people who need help solving the puzzle because of disabilities should just have to sit and take it, which some people seem to have inferred is what I think. For a puzzle like this however, I feel salting should either be given on the side or in the form of a full transcript for all to see (For those that missed them, the original deleted posts [3] and [18] were NOT full transcripts but simply the key words needed to solve the puzzle.)

I kinda hate on the youtube puzzles a little because I generally do tanga puzzles at work if I can't be at a computer at launch the night before. paranoid corporate america blocks things like youtube. Maybe I'll play later at home. =^/

sorry i missed all of this last night. All I have to say is wow. You would think that its not about the puzzles, its about the points. Thats just too bad.

Here's the transcript in its entirety:

Largely obscured actor 1: [mumble]
Largely obscured actor 2: [mumble]

It was a decent puzzle. Just hard to deal with the production values.

Wow jewelia, your puzzles sure do stir things up around here! And [55], I went that way too. I like that Tanga puzzles make me look at things many different ways.

[72] It didn't come off badly, it came off as highly insensitive, and that's because it was. We don't have to infer that you believe that "people who need help solving the puzzle because of disabilities should just have to sit and take it," because that pretty much is what you said in [44], before you edited it away. The posts in [3] and [18] were only heavy salt to those people who, like you, had already solved it. As stated in [46] and [75], what was posted basically was a transcript, because everything other than the key words was incoherent mumbling. That doesn't help anyone unless the answer is "mumble" (protip: it's not). Also, why should the hearing impaired have to wait for some Tangagrams or for someone with Superman-like hearing to transcribe the full video? What you seem to be failing to understand is that for those people, viewing the video is ALREADY unnecessary! Don't they still deserve a chance to finish in the top 100 as well? Do you think you're the only one who's here right when the puzzles are posted, looking for bonus points or bragging rights? People suffering from hearing loss are people too!

[74] Seems like, doesn't it? :(

BTW, all great puzzles last night, jewelia :) I thought this one in particular was very creative, even if the execution left me a bit wanting.

Why were they not looking at the camera? Anonymity?

Please, people, can't we all just get along? It is breaking my heart to think that my puzzle is causing such hard feelings.

I'm sure no one intended to offend anyone else, and when someone does so inadvertently and apologizes, can't we just accept the apology and move on?

Also, since many of the sensitive postings have been removed, either by Tanga or the authors themselves, some people are making erroneous assumptions about what might have been said and/or intended.

I am very sorry that the audio was not top quality, but since some people seem to have had no problems and others had a lot, at least some of the problems may have been exacerbated in the playback system.

For those who cannot access YouTube, I've also posted the video on another site:

http://angelsecho.com/hardOWW23jan08.wmv
(large file, takes a little while buffer)

http://angelsecho.com/hardOWW23jan08comp.wmv
(highly compressed, small video, but quick to load)

[78] Originally, it was because I wanted to zoom out from behind after starting on the Tanga logo, and to focus more on what was said than who was saying it. Given some of the comments about the girl breathing and the guy's accent, I think they are happy to remain anonymous!

Lovely, SurfControl denied URL.

what exactly does "salty" mean?

Ugh... an almost 2 minutes video with constant dialog. No thanks.

Why both making it a video? Why not an audio file? Or better yet... just a transcript?

[81] The term "salt" refers to hints. There's a story behind it... almost folklore around these parts.

From my understanding, there once was a puzzle that had the answer "salt". Someone mistakenly entered it into the comments box rather than the answer box.

Members who have been here longer can probably relate the story better.

EDIT: The full story of "salt" should probably be put into the FAQ section since it is so widely used on puzzle discussions.

[81] Salt=hint. Too salty means that you are hinting so strongly as to possibly give away the solution and spoil the fun for others. A couple of earlier posts were removed by Tanga and/or the author as possibly too salty because they contained ONLY the 14 key words from the video that lead to the answer. Others have since referred to those posts as a "transcript" of the video which, IMHO, is completely inaccurate. I wish I had a transcript to post, but I don't. While I sympathize with anyone who had trouble with the audio for any reason, I tend to agree with those who felt that posting just the 14 key words is overly salty for those who want to solve the puzzle on their own, especially since many have offered to supply the key words upon request via Tangagram.

[83] Leadfoot has actually written a very good puzzle FAQ which includes the etymology of "salt", but due to the strange messageboard we have that disallows stickies, it always gets lost in the shuffle unless someone comments on it. Off to find it and bump it!

UPDATE: Found it: http://tanga.com/forum/blogs/980-PUZZLER_FAQS.

I don't know if this will cause even more controversy but many people asked for this throughout.

Here is the entire transcript of the video:

[Start]

Girl: Wow, Tanga tonight was pretty hard. You know, I only got, like, 75th on the Hard One Word Wonder.

Guy: Yeah it's better than we did on some nights though, still.

Girl: That's true. So, what should we do now?

Guy: I don't know what do you want to do?

Girl: Oh I don't know, what do you want to do?

Guy: I don't know, what do you want to do?

Girl: Well, what do you want to do?

Guy: Well, I guess we could go see a movie?

Girl: Like what?

Guy: Well...we could ah...how about Cloverfield?

Girl: Nah, that's too idiotic. I mean the monster the size of a skyscraper? Please. Ha ha.

Guy: Yeah I guess we've probably seen that movie before?

Girl: Mmm-hmm.

Guy: Well how about National Treasure Then?

Girl: Well, that's too educational. I mean, it's like a history lesson.

Guy: Yeah, I guess now that you bring it up, I'd rather keep my learning during school hours. What about Mad Money?

Girl: Well, that's too asinine? I mean, Katie Holmes as a bank robber?...

Guy: yeah.

Girl: ...ha ha that's funny.

Guy: What about, ah, There Will Be Blood?

Girl: Well, it's too over-rated. On 250 top ten lists? I mean, no movie is that good.

Guy: Alright then, what about Great Debaters?

Girl: Well, That's too righteous. I mean, an aspiring teacher helps poor kids? Who cares [scoffs]...

Guy: I guess I don't.

Girl: [laughs]

Guy: How about Alvin and the Chipmunks?

Girl: Well, that's too pre-school, I mean, who would see that but your little cousin or something?

Guy: Well why don't we just stay here then? I'll...watch a DVD. How about Harry Potter and The Sorcerer Stone?

Girl: Nnnnn...It's alright...but it's...they're too young in that movie. How about we watch one of the later ones?

Guy: Sure then.

Girl: Alright go put it in.

[END]

So if this is too salty then people or the Tanga Admin can flag this post and remove it.

Thanks fachanlahd! I would have done it myself but I've got the flu and my brain isn't up for it.

[86] You're my hero!

[87], [88] so I take it that it ISN'T too salty. LOL!

I came very close to getting my MA in Folklore so I've done my fair share of transcribing. I hope I got all the words correct.

At the end I was stumped, but initially I figured it out.

Thanks for the transcript. Still needed to see the hints though because I didn't know what to do with the words (e.g count the letters, etc)

Neat idea... just needed some polishing.